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How Glimmer's reasoning traces differ

Documented Muse Glimmer's unusually disorganized, repetitive reasoning traces compared with Gemma 4 and Qwen, while getting ~90–160 tok/s with DFlash on a 5090.

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Observations on Muse-Glimmer reasoning traces being noticeably different from qwen / gemma models and questions for you guys

Just downloaded the model, UD-Q5_K_XL quant, asked it to generate a long story to test out reasoning and speed with dflash (super fast btw, ~ 90 to 160 tok/s on a 5090 depending on task) and was surprised at the reasoning traces, they are so unlike anything i've seen recently either in gemma 4, qwen 3.5/ 3.6 or laguna, where as these models to like plan stuff out, and have organized thoughts / plans (granted like half the time they just loop and get lost either way) this model's reasoning is like if a gold fish was suddenly granted speech or something, the reasoning is so disorganized, repetitive, using we for some reason? and bringing up policy and safety twice me : write a long story model : write a long story User wants a long story. We can comply. No constraints. Probably provide a long story. Might ask genre? Could just write a long story. Probably provide a story. Maybe ask what kind? The prompt is just write a long story. We can generate a long story. Probably a few paragraphs. Long story could be lengthy. Provide maybe ~1000 words? Could be long. Maybe give a story with decent length. We should not ask clarifying? Could just produce. Probably safe to produce a story.

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